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Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« on: June 25, 2008, 10:08:17 PM »
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Just a few words on adjusting the stabiliser rods on bocks

This won't be the only way to do it but I have found it works for me and the few people I have done it for

A little bit of theory first
When you cut the bocks back to basics there are only three points that matter
1 The top of the spring  (pivot point )
2 The heal of the footplate  (movement point )
3 The bottom of the spring  ( pivot point )

If you get these three in line the bocks should bounce true
I have seen a lot of people trying to line them up by looking along the footplate and getting the spring in the middle (I used this method at first) the problem with this way is that the springs sometimes have a slight twist in them (Glassfibre is like that) so by lining them up with the footplate you are effectively pushing the hoof to oneside or the other

First you need to get them all square (we can adjust for preference later)

I have noticed that they come from the factory anything from true to completely twisted
No brands mentioned here but some seem to be better than others (and not the ones your expect )

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2008, 10:09:30 PM »
Step 1)  You will need something with a Right Angle on it so if you don't have a Square you can use a DVD case as shown below

The gap at the top should be the same as at the bottom this will make the footplate and upright at 90 degrees to each other (we can lean them back or forward later)

To reduce the top gap you move the nuts on the stabiliser bars up and to increase it move them down

If you have the same difference between top and bottom on both bocks and are happy with the action you can leave them like that the idea is to get both bocks at the same angle

If the bocks are very far out it is wise to loosen the large bolt at the footplate to upright joint (don't forget to tighten when you finnish adjusting)

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2008, 10:10:19 PM »
Step 2)  I have made an adjuster to get the Bocks straight all it is is a bit of wite bent into a hook, a piece of string and an elastic band the picture below shows how it is made

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2008, 10:11:42 PM »
Step 3)  You fit it as the pics below show by hooking it onto the V at the top of the spring and passing it through the footplate and the lower bracket them hooking it over the hoof as shown (it helps if you remove the calf pad first I leave mine off all the time)

Make sure that the knot at the hoof end is on the center of the hoof (you can look down the length of the string from the top to line it up)

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2008, 10:12:30 PM »
Step 5)  Adjusting

Take one Bock and set the adjuster up as above

If the string is to one side you can adjust the nuts on the stabiliser bars

It is best to move them a small amount at a time by trial and error but make sure you move each side the same amount but in opposite directions ( If the string is to the left move the left nuts down 1 turn and the right nuts up 1 turn )

Check the string again to see if it has moved in the desired direction if it has repeat until the string is central then tighten all the nuts

If it has gone the wrong way reverse the procedure

Then do the other bock tighten all nuts and go for a bounce then recheck and readjust if needed as they can go out a bit when used

If any of this is confusing I'm sorry (it confuses me too) but feel free to ask and I will try to explain better

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2008, 10:35:56 PM »
Are there no bounds to your ingenuity? :thumbs:

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2008, 10:36:57 PM »
I try I try  :biggrin:

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 02:57:21 PM »
so jason if i wanted the back of my foot plate rasing would these bars work for me?

or do i adjust summat else?

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2009, 03:50:48 PM »
Jason very good.
But for major wr***ed plates where it way off 90% or the angle you want the frame bolt would need to be loosen too otherwise it may put stress on the metal frame between the rod and that bolt ?
Wouldn't matter in most cases but on a major rebuild it's worth noting.

Aidanh1, yes but they shouldn't be move too much and has I just said the frame bolt would need to the loosened too

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2009, 05:21:12 PM »
Never heard of that dk. It shouldnt make any difference to the rest of the frane and there are a few main bolts. There isnt that much room for adjustment on the rods and i have had no probs. Aidan, why do you want the heel up. Down is best for jumping and stuff because of the way you need to put weight to get most out of the spring.

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2009, 06:42:00 PM »
The main frame bolt is the one that hold the upright to the cross beam

If someone want to alter the angle by lot then this bolt needs to be loosened. Otherwise the frame will have to bend if the adjuster bolt are move to much.

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2009, 06:57:29 PM »
DK:yes that is logical, but i've never had that bolt tight enough to stop it pivoting with a moderate anount of force, once you start jumping on em they'll equalised the pressures etc pretty quickly, though is a good idea if adjusting more than about 5 degrees either way maybe

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2009, 07:03:47 PM »
DK:yes that is logical, but i've never had that bolt tight enough to stop it pivoting with a moderate anount of force, once you start jumping on em they'll equalised the pressures etc pretty quickly, though is a good idea if adjusting more than about 5 degrees either way maybe
I had that problem when I had to change two rods and the frame was bashed out of true and the bolt on my frame was tight. Some new designs like Hillys made doesn't have that pivit point !

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2009, 07:13:52 PM »
ok right well i want maximum bounce thats possible what do i adjust?

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2009, 08:03:02 PM »
if you're not having trouble with them, don't change them

i find it easier to tilt the footplates backwards though, but makes running harder, and i've just had them liek that for so long if i change it i fall over pretty quickly

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2009, 12:43:38 PM »
Err am I missing something Dk or did you miss the last line of the second post where it says

"If the bocks are very far out it is wise to loosen the large bolt at the footplate to upright joint (don't forget to tighten when you finnish adjusting)"

Is the word "Owned"  :Claugh:

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2010, 02:13:08 PM »
ok , string in place, its touching and pullin over to the rt hand side, what do i do now  :Cerr:
 also i notice ive lost one of the bottom nuts  on the LT hand side. im of to get another one.

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Re: Adjusting Bock Stabiliser Rods
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2010, 07:17:21 PM »
If you have jumped on them with the nut missing you will need to set them up as above to be square and also loosen all the bearing bolts and the bolts that hold the spring to brackets and pull the stilts straight and then tighten the bolts a little at the time all round making sure that the stilts stay straight

You will Find a lot of play when the bearing bolts are loose this is normal and you need to tighten without bending the stilts to one side or another

Also worth checking them over carefully to make sure that you havn't cracked the frames anywhere as that rod takes a lot of strain

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